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Old 01-31-2009, 07:52 PM   #1  
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After making 15 blanks, including one for Tin Man (my son), Grizwald, and myself, i took some time off to get caught up on some other stuff. I'm working on some furniture for my grandsons now, but will be building some blanks within the next few weeks.

I build the blanks out of laminated FEQ (Used to be called "Burmese") teak. Guys use all kinds of wood, but I haven't built any out of anything but teak. Usually, they are 4 or 5 vertical laminates with one horizontal one across the top. I alternate the grain in the laminates to offset any stresses in the wood, and I use West System 105 epoxy since it has a proven record of success. I use a 5/16- 3/8 lam to best utilize the very pricey teak, but could make the outside lams thicker and the inside ones thinner if desired.

My blanks are guaranteed unconditionally! If you are unhappy with it for ANY reason, you just ship it back to me and I will replace it with a new one or refund your money. In any case, I eat the freight. So far, everyone has been delighted with my blanks.

Usually, I hang the blanks vertically for 3-4 weeks, checking them every week to see if any twisting or warping has occurred. I have yet to see any deviation from the original readings, but people just seem to feel more comfortable if they hang for awhile, so I do it (My standard is less than .015" deviation).

After 4-6 weeks, I check them and plane them to final dimensions (I make them about 1/8" oversize just in case I have to do any straightening). I built a device that holds the blanks absolutely straight and true during glue up, consequently the blanks come out straight and true and stay that way.

I charge $175 for a typical blank 1.5" wide by 2.0" high by 60" long. I had to go up a little when I went to all FEQ teak. I charge a little more for bigger blanks and a little less for smaller ones, but I build all of them as though my reputation is at stake on each one. I can also build you a custom sized blank for pretty much any size you want. Price will be dependent on how big the blank you want is. If you want an unusual sized blank I will ask for a 50% deposit. On the "normal" sized blanks you pay when it's ready to ship after you have seen pictures of the blank.

I have orders for a few blanks but will be making some more while I am set up. I have a small shop in my house and a VERY understanding wife so I usually try to do a bunch of wood workinf projects, then switch to metalworking.

If you don't have the tools to do it yourselfI, I can cut an enclosed wood track ($30) and add a 6" delrin muzzle reinforcement ($15), or cut a dovetail ($30), and install a pinned delrin enclosed track for $60. If you prefer the Neptonics UHMW track I can cut the dovetail, install it, and pin it for $30 (you supply the UHMW track). I need the UHMD track, though, so I can be sure it slides into the dovetail.

I haven't installed any trigger mechs for customers, however, so while I have the milling machine to do it (same as Tin Man's, but I got mine first), I would have to think about that a little before I agreed to do it, and would need the trigger mech. to be sure it fit right.

Lots of info! As a "newbie" on this forum I don't want to get crosswise with anyone here, so I'll go to the section that offers things to buy or sell. Meanwhile, PM me if you are interested or have questions.

Good luck on the builds. Building a speargun is a very personal thing, and I will help any way I can.

Tin Man's "Old Man",
Bill


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Old 01-31-2009, 08:30 PM   #2  
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Bill, it would be good to see some pics here of the blanks and/or spearguns that were made from them. For the next build I know the exact final dimensions so I won't even need to plane the blank and can get straight to the other work. I'm also considering having you do the delrin insert and track.

Here are pics of the gun I made from your blank, I'm very happy with it http://www.freedivingspearfishing.co...sed-track.html

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Old 01-31-2009, 08:48 PM   #3  
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Sweet! Glad I could play a small part in what turned out to be a REALLY fine looking gun.

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Old 01-31-2009, 09:29 PM   #4  
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This started off as one of Wood Guy's blanks, and turned into my first wood gun. It's a 45" long "dirty water" gun for bay diving, with five vertical laminations, one horizontal on top, with an enclosed Delrin track. Just a simple teak oil finish. I already have another similar blank from him that I will make into a 56" long version, for days when the water is cleaner or we go out in the Gulf.

My skills are not in woodworking, so I can't say enough how nice it was to start with a blank that was straight and true for my first build.

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And of course, the first fish, my personal best red snapper right at 20 lbs.

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That's a nice fish! How deep do you find those red snappers? Here in Puerto Rico it is impossible to see one freediving. They are no shallower than 300 feet....
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:52 PM   #7  
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Marco - I shot that one in about 35' deep water, over a pile of tires. Back in the fall (after the Red Snapper season had closed), I had even larger ones that would not get out of my way when I tried to line up a shot on a grouper in about 32' of water.

But I wasn't freediving . . . Very dirty water and strong currents are a tough combination for a novice like me. Hopefully this summer!
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Bill, I'm assuming that the delrin track can be installed flush with the top of the gun. Can you explain briefly how you work with the delrin. Does it come in a roll or do you shape it yourself? If it comes in a roll does it straighten out perfectly on installation? Do you cut the track once it's in the gun or before?
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I will take some pictures of the steps next time I make a delrin track. Meanwhile, I think the following will help.

I start with a 1" diam. solid black delrin rod. I machine a flat on the top about a foot long. Then I surface plane the top until the flat is 3/4" wide the length of the delrin. The 1 foot flat helps the rod from rolling during the first pass on the surface planer.

Next, I turn the delrin over and plane the other side until I have the thickness I want.

Then I put the delrin back in the milling machine in a jig I made and cut the dovetail on one side. Then I turn it around and cut the other side to 3/4" at the wide part of the delrin. I use a 1' piece with a dovetail in it to check the delrin dovetail for fit. If the delrin slides in ok, I go to the next step. If not, I take a little at a time off the delrin until it does.

Next I cut the dovetail in the wood blank and check the delrin for fit. If need be, I widen the wooden dovetail .001 at a time until it slides in smoothly, then pin it about 2" from the butt end with a 3/4" # 4 ss screw recessed into the bottom of the track.

I can make the track flush with the top or slightly raised, as I did on my gun. I like to use heavy wire wishbones and the raised delrin keeps the wishbones off the wood. If I'm making the track flush with the top, I usually take a finish cut on the surface planer when I'm done to make the track exactly flush with the top of the blank. Of course, the flush track makes installing the trigger mech a little easier, but that's not a huge deal on a milling machine.

I do almost all my precision cutting on my mill. I've got a 8' router table, and it's great for rounding the corners and stuff like that, but it just can't touch the accurracy of a mill.

I'm glad Tin Man talked me into getting one. Of course, I've always suspected he really wanted me to practice loading, hauling, and unloading a 2300 pound piece of equipment before we did his!!

Bill

I put the wood blank in the mill and cut the dovetail in it, then try the fit with the delrin.
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I'm glad Tin Man talked me into getting one. Of course, I've always suspected he really wanted me to practice loading, hauling, and unloading a 2300 pound piece of equipment before we did his!!.
His was supposed to be mine! But I didn't have the coin at the time, so I figured if I could talk him into buying it, then at least I could come over and play now and then.

By the way, his description doesn't do justice to the difficulty of doing precision work on a long, wiggly, noodle of a piece.
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