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Old 08-05-2012, 03:40 PM   #11  
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Looks like you missed the pelvic fins Steven.




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Another source.

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Now my question is how close do you have to cut the fins to eliminate all possibility of a venomous sting? I mean doing it like in this pic will fix it for sure, but I'm wondering what's the minimum that needs to be cut off.

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Old 08-05-2012, 03:50 PM   #12  
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Here's some information. But it says the venom gland is at the base of the spine which to me implies it's near the fish's body, whereas in the drawing it looks like it's near the end of the spine.
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A venom gland is located at the base of each spine. After the spine punctures the skin, the venom enters the wound by traveling up a groove in the spine. Lionfish spines are not like hypodermic syringes or pit viper fangs. Instead, a loose integumentary sheath (skin) covers each spine and during envenomation, the sheath is pushed down the spine, causing compression of two venom glands located at the base. The neurotoxic venom then travels from the glands through depressions (grooves) in the wall of the spine and into the puncture wound. There have been at least four toxins identified: an antigenic heat-labile protein which is the primary toxin; acetylcholine (pronunciation: ah-see-toe-coe'-lean) which is a neurotransmitter; a neuromuscular toxin; and a low molecular weight non-proteinaceous ichthyotoxin. There is evidence that commercially available stonefish anti-venom has detoxifying effects on lionfish venom.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:55 PM   #13  
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This is for a stone fish.

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Here's a close up. Is that the gland in the middle?

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Old 08-05-2012, 04:03 PM   #14  
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Lionfish venom is a thermolabile protein, easy way to denature it is to heat it to ~46*C /114*F. It is possible to denature it via hypothermia, but I don't believe conventional freezing methods can get the temperature low enough. I'll see if I can find the hypothermic denature temp when I get home, I'm farely certain it's extremely low.

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Old 08-05-2012, 04:10 PM   #15  
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Looks like a reaction to the venom can be extreme Saltwater and Freshwater Fishing Forums, Fishing Report warning it's graphic I didn't want to link to the pics. I wouldn't want anyone putting a lion fish in the same cooler with the rest of the fish. Someone that didn't know the lion fish is there can reach in and get stung.
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sheff, what i do is carry a scissor with me all the time and when i get one of the i don't touch them untill it's completelly trimmed .....
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I have a bunch of these from work and they work perfectly.
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Thanks for the clarification Dan
Now adays I leave lions alone unless they are massive and have some meat to offer.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:59 AM   #18  
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Wow, this thread is turning out much better than I thought. Thanks for all of your input. I'm goin to pick up some shears from now on. It was the pec fin that stung me, but I trim everything except the tail when I'm filleting them.

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Old 08-06-2012, 02:57 PM   #19  
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this is what i got and is strong enough.it cost me $12 and it cuts everything a scissor can cut. as soon as i finish with the spines i cut it open and gut it. i also do it with all the fish i catch so i don't have to do it later.
pics didnt come up i'll try it again.
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